Bloomberg’s Ashley Carman joins to discuss the current state of audio and its creator economy.

We discuss Spotify's impact and how close we are to achieving the decade-long dream of viral audio. Plus, Ashley takes us into the ridiculous world of fake podcast ads on TikTok, we debate the state of influencer podcasts, and the rise of audiobooks and AI narrators.

00:29 The fake podcast industry
3:04 Audio trends
4:04 Why is there no audio creator economy?
5:45 Can audios go viral outside of TikTok?
6:40 Podcasting's pivot to video
9:03 Can viral audio clips save the book industry?
10:32 Will we listen to newspapers in the future?
11:52 Audiobooks and AI
13:35 Spotify becoming the new Apple
14:34 The state of the influencer podcast industry
15:35 Reality stars and podcasting
16:57 Becoming a podcast star
18:01 Is Theo Von the new Joe Rogan?
20:04 TikTok and podcasting


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