David Holmgren (co-originator of the Permaculture concept) and Helena
Norberg-Hodge (Director, Local Futures) share a deep ecological sensitivity, as well as a big-picture view of the environmental movement, coming from many decades of experience. In the comfort of Helena’s home, the two discuss the cross-pollination between permaculture and other localization
initiatives, the future of energy and social and economic organization,
and more. They also present a historical analysis of the currents and
counter-currents of environmentalism, which any activist would do well
to consider.