Bernardo Kastrup and John Vervaeke become closer and closer, in this theolocution.
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LINKS MENTIONED:
John Vervaeke's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/johnvervaeke
Bernardo Kastrup's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/bernardokastrup
What I've Learned on Cows #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGG-A80Tl5g
What I've Learned on Cows #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdrhpThqlCo

THANK YOU:
Jaran, who helped with compiling notes.

TIMESTAMPS:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:32 Summary of Round 1
00:10:29 Best counter to John's and Bernardo's position
00:28:42 Vedanta, Brahma, and Lucid Dreaming
00:40:45 Local vs global consciousness, and meta-consciousness
00:43:40 Psychedelics and experiencing "mind at large"
00:46:10 Whitehead and prehension
00:51:40 John and Bernardo have moved closer (philosophically) to one another
00:55:39 On Karl Friston's "inference"
00:52:30 How to improve as an interviewer
00:57:46 Transjectivity, and rejecting both the blank slate and romanticism
01:02:42 Bernardo started out as an "objectivist"
01:08:15 Mind Uploading is nonsense
01:12:58 Joscha Bach knows nothing about consciousness
01:24:12 There's no "simulation" of consciousness. Who's the illusion occurring to?
01:29:56 Growth doesn't stop when you're 20. We need more than the propositional.
01:36:03 "Idolatry of the nerds" and how "thinking" is just one function of the psyche.
01:39:25 Respecting the elderly
01:41:52 Having mode vs. the Being mode
01:48:05 Love is a kind of knowing. On "agape"
01:58:30 Love is a part of nature, but not the only part.
02:05:54 How to integrate the Shadow
02:10:57 The processes that make us adaptive, make us self deceptive.
02:13:18 Internal family systems therapy
02:21:08 Curt's personal confession
02:28:12 We think we must "win" but we must surrender. Surrender to what you are.
02:34:40 Trying not to try
02:40:05 Personal stories of darkness, from John and Bernardo
02:50:50 Self knowledge, self acceptance, and "participating" in this world
02:54:34 Bernardo and John are the opposite of how they seem. John is more "woo" and Bernardo is anti-"woo"
02:58:37 Bernardo's shadow
03:01:35 We need to reintegrate humor in spirituality
03:05:28 How to build the modern religion?
03:33:44 Where you can find more about John and Bernardo
03:39:36 BONUS [MrChocolateCookie] The paradox of trying not to try
03:44:07 BONUS [Queerdo] Veganism and spiritual bypassing
03:57:03 BONUS [David] What did you enjoy most about this conversation?
03:59:33 BONUS John takes Curt through a breathing exercise
04:01:28 BONUS The theolocution process is vehement but filled with love

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