"Jüdisch-christlicher Antinatalismus?" – Gastvortrag und Diskussion mit Dr. Karim Akerma (Universität Hamburg, 30. August 2022).
"Judeo-Christian Antinatalism?" – guest lecture and discussion with Dr. Karim Akerma (University of Hamburg, 30th August 2022).

revised script of Karim Akerma's lecture:
– (German:) Karim Akerma: "Antinatalismus in jüdischer, christlicher und gnostischer Religion": https://antinatalismus.wordpress.com/2023/02/05/antinatalismus-in-judischer-christlicher-und-gnostischer-religion/
– (English:) Karim Akerma: "Antinatalism in Ancient Egypt, in Jewish, Christian, Islamic and Gnostic Religion":
https://antinatalismblog.wordpress.com/2023/07/16/antinatalism-in-ancient-egypt-in-jewish-christian-islamic-and-gnostic-religion/

– English-language resources on Karim Akerma: https://docs.google.com/document/d/17E43t54ZmDqbJPJT-2uExMr_YGAKBTKWwdrjqsRKaD0/mobilebasic
– (English:) full transcript of this video: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VtiKAlTJP_57vWHFvmpbMIBJXWGJxdelOGdNLTjiLmA/mobilebasic
– literature, quotations and references (Parts I and III): https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-qSEBleLi66B2sDekT1SFX7HU_-7l3ox87g7ohi6iUI/mobilebasic
– (German:) bonus Q&A with Karim Akerma: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tpg19ARdGsvCL9UDgOO-LJ1GzUFr_JyE/mobilebasic

– my Kurnig project: https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/comments/wd268d/the_holy_grail_of_modern_antinatalism_unearthed/
– @NoSoulNoToll's and my interview with @LawrenceAnton:
https://youtu.be/xn8AupHN75E

TIMESTAMPS
0:00:00 introduction of participants
0:10:22 Karim Akerma’s preliminary remarks

0:13:12 PART I – analysis and interpretation of Ecclesiastes, chapters 1–5
0:13:52 title(s) of the book
0:15:05 literary background of Ecclesiastes
0:16:31 dating of Ecclesiastes
0:18:15 Eccl. 1
0:30:54 Eccl. 2
0:34:58 Eccl. 3
0:39:03 Eccl. 4
0:45:11 Eccl. 5
0:46:57 Ecclestiastes: conclusion

0:48:27 PART II – Karim Akerma: "Antinatalism in Ancient Egypt, in Jewish, Christian, Islamic and Gnostic Religion"
0:49:17 Introduction
0:54:05 Jewish pronatalism
0:55:21 Biblical proto-antinatalism: Jeremiah
0:57:37 Biblical proto-antinatalism: Job
0:58:26 The Axial Age as a breakthrough to the rejection of existence?
1:03:34 Interim conclusion
1:04:38 The natal myth
1:09:01 Guf space
1:14:20 Ancient prophetic and ancient Greek “desire to never have been”. Existence-protest in comparison
1:16:36 Christianity
1:27:33 In Christianity marriage takes primacy over procreation
1:29:29 The drawing into the equation of the lament of Ipuwer
1:31:11 Islam
1:32:34 Antinatalism in unofficial Christianity and Hans Jonas’s atonement for his initial Gnostic enthusiasm
1:44:09 Jonas’s declaration of primal guilt and abstention from natality in Gnosticism

1:50:53 PART III – discussion
1:52:14 philosophy – the brain of religion
1:53:57 Islamic antinatalism
1:59:56 antinatalism and criticism of God
2:03:14 consistent worldview behind ancient cursings of existence
2:06:49 proportion of pro-natalist and anti-natalist statements in literature
2:12:30 real-world practice of antinatalism in religious communities
2:17:55 Karim Akerma’s “never act rule”
2:25:20 badness of dying
2:33:02 acceptable living and dying conditions
2:43:24 negative utilitarianism in Paradise
2:47:28 preponderance of suffering over happiness
2:53:19 desirability of deluded gladness
3:02:45 discussing antinatalism with Christian students in 1995
3:04:54 Kurnig propaganda
3:07:10 "Rabiat" documentary
3:09:33 Lenny's three theses about Kurnig
3:24:01 procreation as an ethical, personal, and natural matter
3:37:22 China's one child policy
3:40:13 Paul Morland's statement
3:44:02 antinatalism and veganism
3:47:23 antinatalism and politics 1 / collectivism/individualism
3:54:10 instrumentalization of offspring
3:56:39 free will
3:58:35 antinatalism and optimism/pessimism
4:02:57 antinatalism and nihilism
4:05:12 antinatalism and politics 2 / ideal form of government
4:10:49 antinatalism as a social justice movement
4:13:29 promortalism
4:17:31 ethics of suicide
4:20:03 facing hostility and harassment as an antinatalist philosopher
4:24:40 concluding statement

Our camera died at 2:18:03. Sorry about that!

Video editing and thumbnail by @LawrenceAnton.
Organisation, compilation of references and resources, transcript, German and English subtitles, and timestamps by Lenny.