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The Audacity of HOPE...With the recent news of Brian Flores coming out with a lawsuit against the NFL, other coaches and players are speaking up too.

During a phone conversation earlier today (published on @thepivot), Fred and Ryan talked to Coach Jackson to ask him about his tweet supporting Flores and reassuring his stance and legal action against the NFL. The tweet alluded to the fact that Jackson has evidence of similar situations happening to him during his short tenure with Cleveland and willing to offer those materials to strengthen his case.

Former NFL Head Coach Hue Jackson joins the Pivot to talk about his experience of being a black coach in the NFL and similar situations he was faced with while working with the Cleveland Browns and other teams around the league.

"They don't want to hire people who look like us," Coach Jackson tells the guys. Ryan, who played 8 years for Coach Mike Tomlin, says it takes a special person to be able to be a leader of all men, especially at the NFL level and he commends Tomlin on being that person all these year but also understands that Coach T did what he had to do to win.

Jackson pushed back a little on Ryan saying he wished Tomlin did more to bring black coaches under his tree. The episode goes further to explain Hue's role in HBCU's and how that may be the only future black coaches have in succeeding.