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Today we hear the Combat Story of former Navy SEAL and Naval Special Warfare Development Group (or DEVGRU) operator Chris White. Chris spent two decades in the Teams pre-9/11 and was in the first wave of contractors fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq with Blackwater and similar companies early in the war.

Chris hasn’t shared his story previously and did so, in part, to set the record straight on the experience of contractors in the post-9/11 era who had often been painted in a particularly negative way by the media.

Chris now operates Tier One Tactical where he delivers expert training to people, particularly those in law enforcement, in shooting and tactical engagements.

I hope you enjoy this wide ranging and insightful look at Chris’ experiences in both the elite levels of the Navy’s Special Operations community and his experience as a contractor in some incredibly challenging fighting, as much as I did.


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Show Notes:
00:00 - Intro
00:52 - Guest Introduction (Chris White)
01:45 - Interview begins
02:14 - Learnings from battles
10:00 - Fight, Flight, or Freeze
15:37 - UDT days
18:13 - Childhood and path to the Military
21:24 - DeleteME
22:29 - Deliniation between Navy and Teams
26:53 - Deciding to join the Military
29:43 - Being molded by the Military
32:03 - Friends at BUDS
36:29 - Route to DEVGRU
41:23 - Callsign White Boy
43:15 - Rocket Money
44:08 - Chris's strengths
47:43 - Chris's weaknesses
49:27 - Army Navy game
55:29 - Honor of the Fu-manchu
53:34 - Future after 20 years
01:03:53 - Hello Fresh
01:05:11 - Being in Bahrain during 9/11
01:07:08 - First mission after 9/11
01:15:29 - A hairy situation
01:30:28 - Transition to Blackwater
01:45:08 - Upside of being a Contractor
02:24:13 - Sentimental Items
02:25:33 - Do it all again
02:26:13 - Final comments
02:27:41 - Listeners comments and shout outs