Jon Joseph talks with Joan Sutherland about her most recent book, Though Forests of Every Color. Over the decades, Sutherland’s teaching and writing has explored how koans enliven, subvert, and sanctify us.

A Zen Luminaries conversation hosted by Jon Joseph Roshi on September 26, 2022.

Explore the Pacific Zen Luminaries Archive: https://www.pacificzen.org/library/dharma-theme-zen-luminaries/