Ethiopia has been landlocked since Eritrea gained its independence in 1993.
For 30 years it's been dependent on its neighbours - especially Djibouti - for access to ports and international shipping routes.
Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed says the high costs are unsustainable.
He's reportedly said that Ethiopia will secure direct access to a port -- peacefully or, if necessary, by force.
What does he mean? And what are the implications for neighbouring nations?

Presenter: Adrian Finighan

Guests:
Kemal Hashi Mohamoud -- Member of the Ethiopian Parliament

Martin Plaut -- Journalist speciliasing in the Horn of Africa and a fellow at the Institute of Commonwealth Studies at the University of London

Kwaku Nuamah -- Senior Lecturer and Chairman of the International Peace and Conflict Resolution Program at American University

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