In this episode, the presenters, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and journalist Jo Confino, are joined by a returning guest, Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Linh (Brother Spirit) – who is also the composer of the podcast’s theme music. Together, they talk about how to stay centered in difficult and dark times by looking at a particular deep teaching within Buddhist philosophy: the two dimensions – the ultimate dimension and the historical dimension – and helping us to meaningfully integrate them into the present day.

They further explore how feelings of grief and joy don’t have to be in conflict with each other; challenges to touching the ultimate dimensions, and (finally) touching the ultimate peace and freedom; the terror of nothingness; true presence; letting go of the four notions (of self, man/human, living beings, and lifespan); cultivating good energies; how the ultimate transforms the historical - and more!

Timestamps:

00:00:00 Intro
00:01:31 Introducing Brother Phap Linh
00:02:45 Touching peace in the midst of grief
00:04:52 The two dimensions
00:10:31 The two dimensions and daily life
00:15:50 Touching the ultimate dimension
00:29:40 Embodying the ultimate dimension
00:41:35 The terror of nothingness
00:54:00 The leaf and the original sin
01:01:06 Thay’s teachings and the two dimensions
01:18:23 Letting go of the four notions
01:36:47 Transforming the historical dimension

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🔔 The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living is a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. 🔔

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And Global Optimism:
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With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:
https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/

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Resources:

Plum Village Community ➛ https://plumvillage.org/
Thich Nhat Hanh ➛ https://plumvillage.org/about/thich-nhat-hanh/
🎙️ Brother Phap Linh (Brother Spirit) ➛ https://twitter.com/brspirituality
🎙️ Brother Phap Huu ➛ https://plumvillage.org/people/dharma-teachers/br-phap-huu/
🎙️ Jo Confino ➛ https://www.instagram.com/joconfino/

Enjoying the Ultimate Dimension: The Nirvana Chapter of the Dharmapada ➛ https://plumvillage.shop/products/study/books-for-monastic-practice/enjoying-the-ultimate-dimension/
Classes: ‘In the Ultimate Dimension, Every Dharma Is an Unconditioned Dharma’ ➛ https://plumvillage.org/library/classes/class-2-in-the-ultimate-dimension-every-dharma-is-an-unconditioned-dharma/
Dharma Talks: ‘The Nature of No Birth and No Death’ (Neuroscience Retreat) ➛ https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/the-nature-of-no-birth-and-no-death-neuroscience-retreat-br-phap-dung-2019-06-20/
Dharma Talks: ‘Free from Notions: The Diamond Sutra’ ➛ https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/free-from-notions-the-diamond-sutra/
Dharma Talks: ‘The Diamond Sutra’ ➛ https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/the-diamond-sutra-sr-dang-nghiem-2020-2-27-deer-park-monastery/
Deep ecology ➛ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_ecology
Mahāyāna ➛ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahayana
Dharma Talks: ‘Freeing Ourselves from Notions’ ➛ https://plumvillage.org/library/dharma-talks/freeing-ourselves-from-notions/
The Way Out Is In: ‘From Extraction to Regeneration: Healing Ourselves, Healing Society (Episode #16)’ ➛ https://plumvillage.org/podcast/from-extraction-to-regeneration-healing-ourselves-healing-society-episode-16/

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