President Cyril Ramaphosa says the ANC Lekgotla has resolved to declare the country's energy crisis a National State of Disaster. He was speaking at the end of the governing party's NEC Lekgotla at Esselen Park in Ekurhuleni Monday evening. The meeting was also attended by former President Thabo Mbeki and Kgalema Motlanthe. Currently, the country is on stage 4 loadshedding and the system is still under pressure. Ramaphosa explains.

Anthoni van Nieuwkerk is a Professor of international affairs at the Thabo Mbeki African school of public and international affairs. He joins us for more.

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