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After announcing his NFL retirement on the Pivot Podcast, Malcolm Jenkins had an in-depth conversation with Ryan, Channing and Fred about life after football and lessons he’s learned along the way.

Culminating a 13 year illustrious NFL career, Malcolm’s decision comes at a time when the 2x Super Bowl champ is ready to embrace a career change with efforts focused on film production and furthering his aspirations for cultural change.

Channing talks about all the highs and lows of his career on the field while making a joke about not modeling his play after Ryan, who was known for his physicality while playing. “I wanted to save my body so I couldn’t play like Ryan,” jokes Malcolm.

Ryan speaks with Malcolm about some of his efforts over the years to unite change and being outspoken for action in regards to equality and empowering women. Malcolm says without the empowerment of women and putting them in the forefront of life and business, we are at a disadvantage.

Fred asks about his rocky relationship with Drew Brees and if the two have mended fences since the 2020 remarks from his former quarterback. Channing says he won’t be invited to Brees’ HOF induction and they laugh it off as Malcolm opens up that one person he has reached out to for leadership and mentorship is Jay Z. “It took me over a year to think about the right question to ask him when I had my chance so I wanted to make sure I was prepared for that first conversation,” Malcolm tells the guys. “He since has gone on to help shape some of my efforts with life after football.”

Bonding over fatherhood, the guys discuss how parenting has changed over the years and how spending time with their children makes them better men, challenging them to be at their best always.

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